Punishing Victims By Robert Gover, USA.

Robert Gover (born November 2, 1929) grew up in an endowed orphanage (Girard College in Philadelphia), attended the University of Pittsburgh on athletic scholarship (swimming the butterfly), received a degree in economics, worked as a journalist, became a bestselling novelist by age 30, lived most of his life in California where he began his study of astrology, and now resides in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.  His latest novel is Two Brothers.  He describes it as an “economic novel.”  One brother becomes a millionaire, the other a skid row bum.  A third character was an economics professor till he studied astrology—he was subsequently confined in an insane asylum.  Robert’s first novel, One Hundred Dollar Misunderstanding, is a satire on racism and remains a cult classic.  He has published 10 novels and 2 works of nonfiction, including Time and Money: the Economy and the Planets.  He can be reached at

Punishing Victims


Robert Gover, USA.

[Kudos to Saptarishis astrological magazine.

Kindly refer Vol.4th, pages 28-36 wherein Mr. Robert Grover has clearly predicted about economic recession in USA in between 2010-2015 and especially in between 2012-2015.

This article is worth recording by the economic astrologers for guidance

Congratulations to Mr. Robert Grover and the SA magazine team.


Mr. Chiranjilal Purohit. 

Bikaner, Rajasthan, India]

The great victory of the Tea Party Republicans in arm-twisting Congress to pass, and President Obama to sign, the raising of the so-called debt ceiling is a hoax.  It arose out of a political dilemma created by previous laws and it violated the Constitution.  New Yorker Magazine (Aug. 8, 2011) called what the Tea Party Republicans did “ideological fanaticism, political ruthlessness, and economic heedlessness…reckless and irresponsible beyond imagining.”

Fittingly, when this bill was signed into law, (See Chart 1) Neptune was conjunct Chiron in Pisces with both opposite Mercury and the Moon in Virgo, with all four forming a T square with the USA’s Uranus in Gemini.  The Uranus-Pluto square hitting the USA’s natal money planets Venus and Jupiter didn’t help ease the travail, especially given the position of Mars opposite Pluto, with both widely square Saturn conjunct the USA’s Saturn, square the USA’s Sun.

square Saturn conjunct

The fact is that the government is obligated by the Constitution to pay debts incurred including pensions. This obligation was set forth in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, passed at the end of the Civil War.  The Fourteenth Amendment states that debts already incurred shall not be questioned, “Including debts incurred for payment of pensions.” That includes Social Security, which is an “entitlement” in the true sense of the word: Retired Americans are entitled to it because they have already paid for it.

Congress passed the law imposing a debt ceiling on the federal budget in 1917.  But because Congress is obligated by the Constitution to pay debts incurred, that law is really unconstitutional. Like other questionably Constitutional laws, it has not been questioned or overturned. During the USA’s comparatively brief history, the Congress has been caught up in various temporary fanaticisms, passing laws that contradicted the Constitution or previous laws.

Republican advocates of the new bill passed August 2, 2011 were either misinformed or working for the big banks, which have $1.6 trillion on hand, being used to back futures and derivatives trades, making more money on money without producing anything of tangible value.  In other words, the Tea Partiers and other Republicans in Congress were further punishing the victims of the 2008 bubble crash in order to further enrich perpetrators of the crash, who ante up the most generous campaign contributions. American democracy has morphed into “bribe-ocracy.”

President Obama might have stood his ground and done what President Lincoln did: Issue government dollars rather than borrowing dollars from what amounts to a secret society, the member banks of the Federal Reserve. Government issued dollars would be “demand” balanced against “supply.”  That is, it would buy what is needed, thus it would not add to inflation.  In effect, the Obama Administration could have stopped borrowing from private banks and created its own dollars to solve the debt crisis.

But Obama has enabled the fanatical Republicans by asking little and getting less in his negotiations with them. Instead of forthrightly insisting on addressing the nation’s massive unemployment, he has allowed himself to focus on his political enemies’ irrational demands to reduce government spending—at a time when government funding of projects to put people back to work are sorely needed. There’s plenty of work needed to be done to restore the nation’s infrastructure, and an abundance of workers needing jobs. Private companies cannot address these needs, as they do not return an immediate profit. Only government can organize the work that is needed and fund it.

The debt ceiling is also misunderstood by many as meaning the federal government must live within its means, spending no more than it raises in taxes and other revenues.  This is comparable to saying that people should not go into debt to buy cars needed to commute to their jobs, or borrow from banks to buy homes.

Obama tried to correct another false impression of the federal debt when he said:

Raising the debt ceiling simply gives our country the ability to pay the bills that Congress has already racked up. I want to emphasize that. The debt ceiling does not determine how much more money we can spend, it simply authorizes us to pay the bills we already have racked up. It gives the United States of America the ability to keep its word.”

Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, the USA’s privately owned central bank in December 1913, the dollar has inflated about 100%.  In some cases—notably real estate—the inflation rate has been much higher. That is, until the real estate bubble bursting of 2008, which drastically reduced the price of real estate.  US Government spending on wars and subsidies for big corporations has further depleted money for the vast majority of American taxpayers, who are suffering today for lack of money.  The following tale illustrates the plight of Main Street America:

“It is a slow day in the small North Dakota town of Pumphandle and streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit. A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night. As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher. The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op. The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her services on credit. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner. The motel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything. At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves. No one produced anything. No one earned anything… However, the whole town is now out of debt and now looks to the future with a lot more optimism.”

Since the US Constitution demands the government pay its debts, imposing a debt ceiling is ridiculous, and then creating a ruckus to raise it is fantastically ridiculous. Nevertheless, this politically manufactured crisis dominated the nation and world, as Republican members of Congress held the world hostage by creating a deadline to both pass their austerity legislation and raise an artificial debt ceiling, or crash the world economy.

The politics behind this arm-twisting is indicative. Republicans seek to defeat Obama in 2012, and a wrecked economy helps their cause.  Democrats apparently see an opportunity to allow Republicans to hang themselves as the public gradually catches on to this debt ceiling fantasy—if in fact they do catch on in the present national atmosphere of disinformation (Neptune conjunct Chiron opposite Mercury).

One phrase used to describe the conjunction of Neptune and Chiron in Pisces on the Solar Fire program is, “You often resort to tears when your world of illusion is broken into.”  The massive illusion holding sway during this siege was that the government runs its finances the same way families do “around the kitchen table.”  This is like saying the profit made by an individual farmer is the same as that made by a big agribusiness corporation, forgetting that the farmer must live on his profit while the executives of the big corporation deduct all salaries before calculating their corporate profit.

There were certainly other ways to solve the debt problem.  Senator Ron Paul, (Republican of Texas) advocated one.  Ron Paul is often described as a maverick and/or a Libertarian.  Stephen Gandel explains Senator Paul’s solution in Time Magazine:

In the last year or two the Fed has been buying up US Treasury bonds in an effort to lower interest rates and boost the economy. The most recent round of that buying has been dubbed QE2, and has come under a good deal of criticism, though most economists agree that it was a generally helpful policy. The result is that the Fed now holds nearly $1.7 trillion in US debt. But that is really phony debt. The Treasury pays the interest on the debt on behalf of the US government to the Fed, which in turn returns 90 percent of the payments it gets back to the Treasury. Nonetheless, that $1.7 trillion in US bonds that the Fed owns, despite the shell game of payments, is still counted in the debt ceiling number, which caps that amount of total federal debt at $14.3 trillion…Paul’s plan: Get the Fed and the Treasury to rip up that debt. It’s fake debt anyway. And the Fed is legally allowed to return the debt to the Treasury to be destroyed. A trillion and a half dollars is currently about what spending is expected to exceed tax revenue in 2011.”

It was ignorance of how government finances actually work that created this ridiculous brouhaha over an artificial debt ceiling, and/or enabled the perpetrators of it to hold the nation hostage till Congress and Obama caved in to their demands and further punished the victims of the banking collapse of 2008. Going forward, Republicans will chastise Obama for “running up the national debt,” when in fact Obama inherited a huge debt incurred by the previous administration, plus a wrecked economy following the bursting of the real estate bubble in 2007-2008.

By mid-2012, the Neptune-Chiron conjunction will be separating and, perhaps, the public will emerge from this painful delusion and understand what really happened on August 2, 2011.  Perhaps, but don’t count on it, because the American news media is owned and controlled by right-wing conservatives who will benefit from the bill passed August 2, 2011.

Since about 70% of the economy is driven by consumer spending, this hoax will have the worst possible effect going forward, expanding unemployment and poverty. What’s needed is money in the hands of people who will spend it for necessities, not blow it away to Wall Street casino bankers.  What the debt ceiling bill does, instead, is threaten to cut entitlement programs—Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid—and curtail money for education and infrastructure repairs.

Conservative Republicans have been against programs that benefit the poor and middle class—about 95 percent of the American population—since the 1930s when such legislation was first enacted.  Conservatives have persistently chipped away at such programs over the past six decades, based on the belief that transferring money to the wealthy will boost economic growth because the wealthy will invest in industrial enterprises.

What has happened in recent decades, however, is that the wealthy have invested in outsourcing American industries to cheap labor countries, and investing in futures and derivatives. Also chipping away at the American economy has been a dramatic increase in computer-driven automation, replacing workers with machines.

This virtually guarantees that the USA will be suffering another great depression by 2015, and with a government that has gotten out of touch with the needs of its people, a second American revolution becomes more likely.  Chart 1

USA’s horoscope

In the above chart, the USA’s horoscope (with Gemini Rising) is on the inner wheel while the planets for the August 2, 2011 passage of the debt ceiling bill are on the outer wheel.

Notice, first, how the Neptune-Chiron conjunction in Pisces opposes Mercury and the Moon in Virgo, forming a T square to the USA’s Ascendant and Uranus in Gemini.

Then notice how the grand cross formed by transiting Mars, Saturn, Pluto and Uranus afflict the USA’s natal Venus, Jupiter and Sun in Cancer.

It is the slower moving, outermost planets that forecast future economic conditions, so it’s hard to interpret this pattern as anything but negative for the future of the American economy.  And, since the long-lingering Uranus-Pluto square has a history of coinciding with revolutions, the possibility of a tremendous social upheaval in the USA during the coming decade looms.  Indeed, the debt ceiling bill will have dire consequences for most Americans and much of the world.

Chart 2

Americans Chart

By the spring of 2015, the USA and world will be experiencing the consequence of the August 2, 2011 legislation.  In the above chart for the March 5, 2015, notice that the New Moon falls conjunct and opposite the USA’s natal Neptune, square natal Mars in Gemini.  T Chiron is conjunct the Sun in Pisces, adding to the angst.  Historically, it has been when this Mars-Neptune square has been afflicted by transiting planets that stock markets have crashed.  Even if stock markets do not crash around this date, the overall economy will be in deeper trouble than it now is: Every time the USA’s Sun-Saturn square has been hit by oppositions or squares from the outermost four planets, the US economy has suffered through a great depression. At the depths of the great depression of the 1930s, Saturn in Capricorn opposed the US Sun and squared the US Saturn, while Uranus was again in Aries, opposite the US Saturn.  Pluto at that time was in Cancer hovering over the four US planets in that Sign.

In 2015, T Saturn will oppose the US Uranus in Gemini and T Jupiter will oppose the US Moon in Aquarius. The Moon’s Nodes will hit the US Saturn, accompanied by Uranus, Mars and Venus in Aries. 

It will then become evident that the debt ceiling flap perpetrated by Republicans in 2011, although it appeared as a partisan victory at the time, was about the worst thing that could be done to the US economy.



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